Post by gosick on Jan 7, 2020 13:37:01 GMT
As you all know, there was another forum being hosted with the domain wlopserver , which i was apart of for months until I've decided to delete everything that I've created once and for all.
Here's a couple of reasons on why I decided to do so, i'll explain further in detail below past it.
1.Domain name, I fully understand that it was initially created for a Private server being in the works "Months ago", that never really panned out. Yes domain names aren't exactly cheap, but from the get-go if you're using a pserver domain name for a original server, it honestly felt wrong.
2.Amy is the owner of the forums, she has been far too inactive in the forums far too often, there's no one in the world that's too busy, that you can't even spend 30 minutes of your time to do something, unless you're a higher-up in a multi-million company. But the fact that nobody else on the forums have the same authority or an authority that's similar to yours, due to your lack of trust of other people or something else that i do not know about, slowly resulted in a lack of incompetence from the whole entire staff team.
3.All the moderators, past and current were chosen from the discord of the Pserver , through a application format. I sincerely believe that they should not have been the mods once the direction has changed to NWLO instead. I've even heard cases of "payment" for the Mods, that to me is relatively bizarre.
My issue with the moderator team, stems from various reasons, one of which is the time-zone, which majority of them being relatively similar, there was only a single mod in the Asia time-zone whereas majority of them were from the other half of the map.
The other is how, pretty much once the direction was changed more then 90% of the Mods pretty much gave 0 fucks, it took them months to finally exile some mods, while questionably keeping some that aren't doing anything regardless.
For people that has been on the forums, you would've noted that MowMow(BangDream/Pika) was on the Mod team for a month, until the first forum event concluded, which resulted in a "demotion", a demotion would've been alright except it was basically expulsion, the whole ordeal was a plain example of why i stated "incompetence" it wasn't handled properly from the beginning.
Also for people wondering about the scoring, since I'm no longer there, it was scored based on
Effort should never be the same rating as Design, as Design is subjective, while effort isn't, for starters link(my guide) which took me roughly 12.5 hours to do 10% completion, was cited at a 7/7 for Effort, meaning even if i were to complete the guide it wouldn't have made a difference.
Other then the template, you basically had poor reasoning on scoring, majority of the reasons weren't even stated, now you know why the results wasn't publicly published. it wasn't a which guide is better, it was more of a Popularity contest, n that there was a blatant biased with the results, if you've noted the top 3 were all either (Quests/Side-quest).
Additionally, I sincerely believe that not a single mod really knew how to score things, for starters Karolina's(Hotspring Guide) was basically a copy from both IGG's/Chinese guide without being credited yet not a single Mod realized it, this meant a lack of research/interest.
The last and final reason, is how Mods wouldn't even give their critique on Guides being published, but instead demoralizing members creating guides.
"Being helpful and active on the forum, this can include but not limited too ; answering questions or concerns, posting helpful guides that are clear and organized, being a friendly welcome host to the forum."
This was directly taken from their "how to get karma points section", yet I've yet to seen it even happen once.
4.Overall state of the forums has been a clusterfuck for months now, Amy has basically hardly appeared we're talking less then 24hours in almost 2months, for context I've applied for moderator at Nov 6, yet up till this date I've yet to even get a reply.
The only moderator doing anything right now is Lunaris, every other Moderator Is dead, hence why i decided to move-on because it's not working out anymore.
So what am i offering you here, Transparency, everything here is transparent, from giveaways, to changes being made, to why X was being done, all will be shown.
I'm also stating right from the get-go that, community suggestions will always be taken into consideration, this means that our staff group will basically discuss it, then give back a extensive reasoning if the suggestion is possible, if not a counter negotiation will be proposed.
I believe the forum(WLOPSERVER) was initially intended for You the Members, but it has definitely swayed from such.
Here's a couple of reasons on why I decided to do so, i'll explain further in detail below past it.
- Domain name.
- Amy's Inactivity.
- Moderator's Incompetence.
- Overall the state of the Forums.
1.Domain name, I fully understand that it was initially created for a Private server being in the works "Months ago", that never really panned out. Yes domain names aren't exactly cheap, but from the get-go if you're using a pserver domain name for a original server, it honestly felt wrong.
2.Amy is the owner of the forums, she has been far too inactive in the forums far too often, there's no one in the world that's too busy, that you can't even spend 30 minutes of your time to do something, unless you're a higher-up in a multi-million company. But the fact that nobody else on the forums have the same authority or an authority that's similar to yours, due to your lack of trust of other people or something else that i do not know about, slowly resulted in a lack of incompetence from the whole entire staff team.
3.All the moderators, past and current were chosen from the discord of the Pserver , through a application format. I sincerely believe that they should not have been the mods once the direction has changed to NWLO instead. I've even heard cases of "payment" for the Mods, that to me is relatively bizarre.
My issue with the moderator team, stems from various reasons, one of which is the time-zone, which majority of them being relatively similar, there was only a single mod in the Asia time-zone whereas majority of them were from the other half of the map.
The other is how, pretty much once the direction was changed more then 90% of the Mods pretty much gave 0 fucks, it took them months to finally exile some mods, while questionably keeping some that aren't doing anything regardless.
For people that has been on the forums, you would've noted that MowMow(BangDream/Pika) was on the Mod team for a month, until the first forum event concluded, which resulted in a "demotion", a demotion would've been alright except it was basically expulsion, the whole ordeal was a plain example of why i stated "incompetence" it wasn't handled properly from the beginning.
Also for people wondering about the scoring, since I'm no longer there, it was scored based on
- Design - 7
- Effort - 7
- Originality - 3
- Usefulness(I don't remember exact name) - 3
- Total = 20
Effort should never be the same rating as Design, as Design is subjective, while effort isn't, for starters link(my guide) which took me roughly 12.5 hours to do 10% completion, was cited at a 7/7 for Effort, meaning even if i were to complete the guide it wouldn't have made a difference.
Other then the template, you basically had poor reasoning on scoring, majority of the reasons weren't even stated, now you know why the results wasn't publicly published. it wasn't a which guide is better, it was more of a Popularity contest, n that there was a blatant biased with the results, if you've noted the top 3 were all either (Quests/Side-quest).
Additionally, I sincerely believe that not a single mod really knew how to score things, for starters Karolina's(Hotspring Guide) was basically a copy from both IGG's/Chinese guide without being credited yet not a single Mod realized it, this meant a lack of research/interest.
The last and final reason, is how Mods wouldn't even give their critique on Guides being published, but instead demoralizing members creating guides.
"Being helpful and active on the forum, this can include but not limited too ; answering questions or concerns, posting helpful guides that are clear and organized, being a friendly welcome host to the forum."
This was directly taken from their "how to get karma points section", yet I've yet to seen it even happen once.
4.Overall state of the forums has been a clusterfuck for months now, Amy has basically hardly appeared we're talking less then 24hours in almost 2months, for context I've applied for moderator at Nov 6, yet up till this date I've yet to even get a reply.
The only moderator doing anything right now is Lunaris, every other Moderator Is dead, hence why i decided to move-on because it's not working out anymore.
So what am i offering you here, Transparency, everything here is transparent, from giveaways, to changes being made, to why X was being done, all will be shown.
I'm also stating right from the get-go that, community suggestions will always be taken into consideration, this means that our staff group will basically discuss it, then give back a extensive reasoning if the suggestion is possible, if not a counter negotiation will be proposed.
I believe the forum(WLOPSERVER) was initially intended for You the Members, but it has definitely swayed from such.
since i was a part of the mod team. The whole post looks like it helping me and against me at the same time.
